shsharma_2000
02-06 11:40 AM
I went for H1B extn (approved Nov 2007) stamping on 15th Jan at New Delhi consulate. The person checking the papers at the outside window wrote - PIMS found on my appl form.
I checked with the VO after the interview if I will experience any PIMS delay. He replied he would not have been able to process my application without PIMS entry being found and everything is good.
Got the passport back on 18th.
I checked with the VO after the interview if I will experience any PIMS delay. He replied he would not have been able to process my application without PIMS entry being found and everything is good.
Got the passport back on 18th.
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gc28262
06-14 12:00 AM
I would like to point out the differences between H1B and L1
1. There is a yearly limit for H1B (65k + 20K) but L1s are limitless.
2. A minimum wage need clause is there for H1B but minimum wage is not required to be paid for L1s. There are people in L1A visas who are supposed to be Senior Managers are sometimes paid less than 60K per annum by these offshore companies. As although they are brough in L1A visa they are in fact developers.
3. Almost 99% of the L1s are from offshore companies whose main intention is to send the project/job to offshore, most of the H1Bs do not have this intention.
4. L1s cannot change their employer, so they are bound to follow what their offshore employer ask them to do i.e try to take the job offshore, H1Bs can change employers, they will not try to send the job to offshore as they will then eventually have tomove back to offshore.
So if we clearify these points even to the antis, I hope they will understand who is the real culprint for the employment scarcity. Each of these companies are moving thousands of jobs out of this country making the problems for Citizens/Green Card holders/H1Bs.
99.99% of all the L1s are not used as they were intended when the law was signed.
All these may be true. No matter how you convince antis, they won't support any foriegn worker here. They want all of us out.
Even if authorities bans all these L1s, outsourcing will not stop. On the contrary it will intensify.
Before the 2001 recession, many companies were reluctant to outsource their work to India or other countries. When recession hit in 2001, many companies overcame this inhibition and started outsourcing jobs in large scale.
If companies find more stumbling blocks to operate their business, they will find even more innovative ways to overcome those. Remember India is no longer a back office for a low end work now. Many companies have even moved their R&D to India.
1. There is a yearly limit for H1B (65k + 20K) but L1s are limitless.
2. A minimum wage need clause is there for H1B but minimum wage is not required to be paid for L1s. There are people in L1A visas who are supposed to be Senior Managers are sometimes paid less than 60K per annum by these offshore companies. As although they are brough in L1A visa they are in fact developers.
3. Almost 99% of the L1s are from offshore companies whose main intention is to send the project/job to offshore, most of the H1Bs do not have this intention.
4. L1s cannot change their employer, so they are bound to follow what their offshore employer ask them to do i.e try to take the job offshore, H1Bs can change employers, they will not try to send the job to offshore as they will then eventually have tomove back to offshore.
So if we clearify these points even to the antis, I hope they will understand who is the real culprint for the employment scarcity. Each of these companies are moving thousands of jobs out of this country making the problems for Citizens/Green Card holders/H1Bs.
99.99% of all the L1s are not used as they were intended when the law was signed.
All these may be true. No matter how you convince antis, they won't support any foriegn worker here. They want all of us out.
Even if authorities bans all these L1s, outsourcing will not stop. On the contrary it will intensify.
Before the 2001 recession, many companies were reluctant to outsource their work to India or other countries. When recession hit in 2001, many companies overcame this inhibition and started outsourcing jobs in large scale.
If companies find more stumbling blocks to operate their business, they will find even more innovative ways to overcome those. Remember India is no longer a back office for a low end work now. Many companies have even moved their R&D to India.
drahuls
01-15 12:48 AM
Hi,
I also had my H1B visa interview on 4th Jan at Mumbai, but as of now i have not received any email about the process completion. Has anyone received email ?. Please inform.
Thank you.
I also had my H1B visa interview on 4th Jan at Mumbai, but as of now i have not received any email about the process completion. Has anyone received email ?. Please inform.
Thank you.
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aps
10-29 01:00 AM
One of the iv member, has stated that the I485 has been denied for his friend, upon withdrawl of 140 by his ex-employer. His ex-employer has informed USCIS, that the employee left the job on his own. Also, he quoted that "USCIS denied I485 because, ac21 can be used in case of layoffs only , not switching for jobs"
In your letter you are requesting to give RFE/NOID before denial, but the fundamental reason for denial is different in the above case. what is use of getting RFE/NOID, in that case?
thanks,
aps
From IV: IV commends the initiative taken by it's members nk2006, pd_recpaturing, ItsNotfunny and others. As these members have observed, we all know that any one who has filed for AOS/I-485 can potentially be hit with this issue, especially in the current job market situations. If you believe in the old adage prevention is better than cure, this is an action item you have to subscribe to. It will be only a matter of time the number of such denials is going to spike.
In recent weeks there has been a spate of I485 denials by USCIS in the AC21 cases. In most of these cases, the underlying I-140 has been revoked by previous employer. But AC21 regulations and related memo�s require that I485�s should not be denied based on that � provided I485 has been pending for more than 180 days and the applicant has changed to a new job that is same or similar. USCIS has been rejecting cases without even issuing a NOID � again required by AC21 regulations. So USCIS is not following AC21 regulations and related field memo�s for whatever the reasons.
Obviously this will have a very bad impact on us � in addition to tremendous amount of stress it can have very bad economic implications including loss of job. In the current economic conditions we cannot afford to lose the job change flexibility provided by AC21 regulations. IV has started a campaign to fight this.
After a brief campaign to write to Ombudsman, it has been decided to intensify this campaign and write to various officials in USCIS hierarchy. IV core members have been actively involved in coming up with a strategy and are actively supporting this effort. By sending large number of letters we can draw their attention to this issue and resolve as quickly as possible. There are other strategies that are being discussed and will be underway soon to tackle this issue. This is the first and the most important step up on which other steps depend.
I request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21716
To achieve positive results we need to send these letters in large numbers - please send them today and let everyone else be aware of this effort. Thank you.
Request to core/web site admin: can you please add a link to this thread on the IV main page to get better coverage to this campaign - thanks.
In your letter you are requesting to give RFE/NOID before denial, but the fundamental reason for denial is different in the above case. what is use of getting RFE/NOID, in that case?
thanks,
aps
From IV: IV commends the initiative taken by it's members nk2006, pd_recpaturing, ItsNotfunny and others. As these members have observed, we all know that any one who has filed for AOS/I-485 can potentially be hit with this issue, especially in the current job market situations. If you believe in the old adage prevention is better than cure, this is an action item you have to subscribe to. It will be only a matter of time the number of such denials is going to spike.
In recent weeks there has been a spate of I485 denials by USCIS in the AC21 cases. In most of these cases, the underlying I-140 has been revoked by previous employer. But AC21 regulations and related memo�s require that I485�s should not be denied based on that � provided I485 has been pending for more than 180 days and the applicant has changed to a new job that is same or similar. USCIS has been rejecting cases without even issuing a NOID � again required by AC21 regulations. So USCIS is not following AC21 regulations and related field memo�s for whatever the reasons.
Obviously this will have a very bad impact on us � in addition to tremendous amount of stress it can have very bad economic implications including loss of job. In the current economic conditions we cannot afford to lose the job change flexibility provided by AC21 regulations. IV has started a campaign to fight this.
After a brief campaign to write to Ombudsman, it has been decided to intensify this campaign and write to various officials in USCIS hierarchy. IV core members have been actively involved in coming up with a strategy and are actively supporting this effort. By sending large number of letters we can draw their attention to this issue and resolve as quickly as possible. There are other strategies that are being discussed and will be underway soon to tackle this issue. This is the first and the most important step up on which other steps depend.
I request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21716
To achieve positive results we need to send these letters in large numbers - please send them today and let everyone else be aware of this effort. Thank you.
Request to core/web site admin: can you please add a link to this thread on the IV main page to get better coverage to this campaign - thanks.
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l1fraud
06-08 10:15 PM
Thanks ... normal options in USCIS asks you to call ICE.gov ... BUT ICE.gov doesn't seem to have a local office.. please let me know if anyone out there has gone this route and any update regarding what all documents we need to produce to prove our case. Since its a Billion dollar company they are bound to fight the case (hopefully). Any information regarding the same is appretiate.
drirshad
01-06 11:11 AM
Guys got a reply from Mattew Oh as follows on enquring about section 8001.
--- Matthew Oh <ohlaw@immigration-law.com> wrote:
> Irshad: I am glad that you have started a new
> portal. I was going to
> contact you to address problem of setting up a link
> to the immigrationportal
> as it has to go through another attorney's website.
> Some attorneys may have
> a problem with that. Since you have a new web site,
> I will take a look at
> it and may consider setting up a link on our web
> site.
>
> With reference to 8001, the community should focus
> on the Comprehensive
> Immigration Reform legislation rather than S. 1932
> issue. That legislation
> is gone. Thank you for keeping in touch with me.
>
--- Matthew Oh <ohlaw@immigration-law.com> wrote:
> Irshad: I am glad that you have started a new
> portal. I was going to
> contact you to address problem of setting up a link
> to the immigrationportal
> as it has to go through another attorney's website.
> Some attorneys may have
> a problem with that. Since you have a new web site,
> I will take a look at
> it and may consider setting up a link on our web
> site.
>
> With reference to 8001, the community should focus
> on the Comprehensive
> Immigration Reform legislation rather than S. 1932
> issue. That legislation
> is gone. Thank you for keeping in touch with me.
>
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abuddyz
01-24 09:02 AM
My H1 extension and transfer to a new employer was approved around Feb 2007 and validity is between mar 2007 and feb 2010.
So did you guys notice a pattern here ?
hmmm.. i had noticed that for couple of persons whose approval was done early got their passport immediately but in you case it is not true!! :confused: so I guess it is difficult to decide any pattern.. (i am not sure whether it is related to H1 approval of any specific center.. if we decide some template and ask everyone to post all such details that might help but i am not sure whether everyone will follow that template...) was there anything complex in your case which you think might have caused this problem?
my H1 approval was done in April 2007 and I have my appointment in Feb 1 st week. I will post my details as soon as my interview is done.. Good luck to you..
So did you guys notice a pattern here ?
hmmm.. i had noticed that for couple of persons whose approval was done early got their passport immediately but in you case it is not true!! :confused: so I guess it is difficult to decide any pattern.. (i am not sure whether it is related to H1 approval of any specific center.. if we decide some template and ask everyone to post all such details that might help but i am not sure whether everyone will follow that template...) was there anything complex in your case which you think might have caused this problem?
my H1 approval was done in April 2007 and I have my appointment in Feb 1 st week. I will post my details as soon as my interview is done.. Good luck to you..
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vasa
07-11 01:51 PM
I agree...
No offense to any media organization but I agree with you too.
No offense to any media organization but I agree with you too.
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fatjoe
10-12 10:38 AM
Neelu:
My attr said that uscis does not follow any chrological order to approve cases. Rather, it takes any 485 application filed before Jan 22, 05. So, your point on "giving more time" won't work here.
This is what I did. I did not get GC yet though, but got to know where I'm at.
1. Contacated NCS numerous times and raised two SRs.
2. Took inforpass a couple of times. Infopass IOs have more detailed info about our cases.
3. Contact Senator requesting that my appln be assigned to an IO, and it was done so. It is with an IO now. Hoping and praying that my IO picks up application to approve it this week.
4. Contacted Ombudsman late last week. Hoping to get some good actions taken on my application.
5. You might consider contacting Janet Napolitino as well.
All the best.
My attr said that uscis does not follow any chrological order to approve cases. Rather, it takes any 485 application filed before Jan 22, 05. So, your point on "giving more time" won't work here.
This is what I did. I did not get GC yet though, but got to know where I'm at.
1. Contacated NCS numerous times and raised two SRs.
2. Took inforpass a couple of times. Infopass IOs have more detailed info about our cases.
3. Contact Senator requesting that my appln be assigned to an IO, and it was done so. It is with an IO now. Hoping and praying that my IO picks up application to approve it this week.
4. Contacted Ombudsman late last week. Hoping to get some good actions taken on my application.
5. You might consider contacting Janet Napolitino as well.
All the best.
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malibuguy007
09-09 07:51 PM
Is anyone sending emails as well or is it only calls?
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addsf345
09-04 02:24 PM
All,
Lingo came up with the same plan....here is the link below....
https://www.lingo.com/shop/promotions/helloworldmax.jsp
I am not sure how to navigate from LINGO.COM, but the link gives the info...share if any body has exp. with this company....
I hate to play "who winks first" game with teleblend. They told that they would come up with similar india plan but not providing any details.
May be now I should switch to vonage or Lingo. One factor in favor of vonage is: I get two months free with referral and one year contract rather than 2 years with Lingo.
As per one my close friend, lingo CS is not very good. Vonage is still better than Lingo.
However here is my question.
The acutal cost of Vonage with unlimited india calling is $31 - $32 per month due to taxes, misc charges etc.
WHAT would be ACTUAL COST OF LINGO per month? any approximation?
Any one who uses lingo? Please advice... How much money do Lingo charges over & above regular monthly charges?
I used to be a vonage user and Vonage was horrible as they were trying as much hard to charge the MAX to the customer in extra MISC charges.
Lingo came up with the same plan....here is the link below....
https://www.lingo.com/shop/promotions/helloworldmax.jsp
I am not sure how to navigate from LINGO.COM, but the link gives the info...share if any body has exp. with this company....
I hate to play "who winks first" game with teleblend. They told that they would come up with similar india plan but not providing any details.
May be now I should switch to vonage or Lingo. One factor in favor of vonage is: I get two months free with referral and one year contract rather than 2 years with Lingo.
As per one my close friend, lingo CS is not very good. Vonage is still better than Lingo.
However here is my question.
The acutal cost of Vonage with unlimited india calling is $31 - $32 per month due to taxes, misc charges etc.
WHAT would be ACTUAL COST OF LINGO per month? any approximation?
Any one who uses lingo? Please advice... How much money do Lingo charges over & above regular monthly charges?
I used to be a vonage user and Vonage was horrible as they were trying as much hard to charge the MAX to the customer in extra MISC charges.
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gccovet
08-07 12:23 PM
Good for you..
People yet another case who is going to crossover to the EB2 line...
Sunny ,
What is your PD???
People yet another case who is going to crossover to the EB2 line...
Sunny ,
What is your PD???
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gsc999
07-09 07:09 PM
USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez, has become a member of IV...Or he started reading our posts in this forum
----
Yeah, maybe it was all his idea in the first place to order so many flowers for himself!
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Yeah, maybe it was all his idea in the first place to order so many flowers for himself!
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SunJoshi
12-31 01:25 PM
We are in need of some volunteers/members in the Boston Area to work with some of our PR leads.
Please come forward to help out.
Please come forward to help out.
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pmb76
07-14 05:01 PM
Friends, There are several formatting errors on the petition on petiononline.com. The " show up as ? and the ' also show up as "?". I have created a new petition below:
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loudobbs
Again , I'm sorry. Please re-sign. Once i reach a certain number like 1000 I will priority mail this to all senior executives of Time Warner Inc.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loudobbs
Again , I'm sorry. Please re-sign. Once i reach a certain number like 1000 I will priority mail this to all senior executives of Time Warner Inc.
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Refugee_New
11-25 01:32 PM
Kumar1,
I support your view. Let this punjabi guy go into foreclosure and screw up his credit history and suffer for the next 7 to 14 years. Its not just him, his entire family will suffer because of this.
Those who oppose the foreclosure, i think you guys are indirectly helping this punjabi guy. He has good job, good salary and he is capable of paying his monthly mortgage and he and his family are sleeping without any issue right now. If he is not going into foreclosure then how do you think this guy will suffer for the next 7 to 14 years?
Let his choose what he wants.
Punjabi guy, you are a greedy person and you have crook'ed mind. You know you are capable of paying off your monthly mortgage and still you want to foreclose your house? Don't you have ethics, moral values? Don't you think you are trying to cheat the system?
I know foreclosure is not bad and its not against law. But who should seek foreclosure? Is it not for people who are really really in deep trouble?
Even i own a house and i don't live there because of my job situation. I have rented out my house. I live 700 miles away from my own house. My house value has dropped and i owe more than the house value. But i have job and i am capable of making my payments. Do you think i am eligible to go for foreclosure? Not really.
Note: I know a friend who lost his job back in 2001 and couldn't pay his car loan(he could've paid). It was about $5000 and it ultimately screwed up his credit history. He got into a good paying job after a year and he wanted to buy a house back in 2002-2003 period. He was not able to get any loan including credit cards. His friend had to co-sign for him to get into an apartment. He is still repenting his decision of not paying off that loan. Recently he got a car loan at the rate of 12%.
I support your view. Let this punjabi guy go into foreclosure and screw up his credit history and suffer for the next 7 to 14 years. Its not just him, his entire family will suffer because of this.
Those who oppose the foreclosure, i think you guys are indirectly helping this punjabi guy. He has good job, good salary and he is capable of paying his monthly mortgage and he and his family are sleeping without any issue right now. If he is not going into foreclosure then how do you think this guy will suffer for the next 7 to 14 years?
Let his choose what he wants.
Punjabi guy, you are a greedy person and you have crook'ed mind. You know you are capable of paying off your monthly mortgage and still you want to foreclose your house? Don't you have ethics, moral values? Don't you think you are trying to cheat the system?
I know foreclosure is not bad and its not against law. But who should seek foreclosure? Is it not for people who are really really in deep trouble?
Even i own a house and i don't live there because of my job situation. I have rented out my house. I live 700 miles away from my own house. My house value has dropped and i owe more than the house value. But i have job and i am capable of making my payments. Do you think i am eligible to go for foreclosure? Not really.
Note: I know a friend who lost his job back in 2001 and couldn't pay his car loan(he could've paid). It was about $5000 and it ultimately screwed up his credit history. He got into a good paying job after a year and he wanted to buy a house back in 2002-2003 period. He was not able to get any loan including credit cards. His friend had to co-sign for him to get into an apartment. He is still repenting his decision of not paying off that loan. Recently he got a car loan at the rate of 12%.
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glamzon
06-29 04:01 PM
http://www.hammondlawfirm.com/alerts/july_2007_visa_bulletin_revision.htm
check this .
check this .
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SunnySurya
08-07 02:05 PM
Yes, it matters, all those guys whom I speak about has RD of July 2nd 07
Let us assume that EB2 is going to be current in a year or even sooner than that. Given that situation, and arguing that about 500 people jumped ahead into line over you in to EB2 from EB3, still I do not foresee that their GC's will be approved before the people who are already in line, because
1) as FIFO is not being followed by USCIS, probably they are processing cases based on RD,
2) PD porting is effectively done at the time the second I-140 IS APPROVED. At I-485 stage you can only hope to PD recapture and cross your fingers after sending a no fee letter. This will surely would need additional scrutiny, hence is not a so called 'Low hanging fruit'. Even if an EB3 person wants to start his process right now, it will not be probably before a year and half to two years before he/she is ready to port, and by that time you are past the gate or significantly nearer.
so my point of view is if you look at this thing negatively, you would have a Heartburn and related health issues, but if you are positive and an optimist you would deserve what you get.
stay healthy! that is more important than stressing yourself on issues which in the long term do not matter really. (You will get GC on or two rears later in the worst case scenario). cheer up folks:D:D:D
Let us assume that EB2 is going to be current in a year or even sooner than that. Given that situation, and arguing that about 500 people jumped ahead into line over you in to EB2 from EB3, still I do not foresee that their GC's will be approved before the people who are already in line, because
1) as FIFO is not being followed by USCIS, probably they are processing cases based on RD,
2) PD porting is effectively done at the time the second I-140 IS APPROVED. At I-485 stage you can only hope to PD recapture and cross your fingers after sending a no fee letter. This will surely would need additional scrutiny, hence is not a so called 'Low hanging fruit'. Even if an EB3 person wants to start his process right now, it will not be probably before a year and half to two years before he/she is ready to port, and by that time you are past the gate or significantly nearer.
so my point of view is if you look at this thing negatively, you would have a Heartburn and related health issues, but if you are positive and an optimist you would deserve what you get.
stay healthy! that is more important than stressing yourself on issues which in the long term do not matter really. (You will get GC on or two rears later in the worst case scenario). cheer up folks:D:D:D
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zCool
03-24 04:36 PM
Companies can and will have internal documentation standards regarding employibility.
In fact lately, judges have even upheld firings of smokers from certain companies.
IF there is a pattern of discrimination based on age, sex, national origin etc etc. THEN you can sue.. but NOT just because you don't like the policy of the employers..
People don't realize it but US laws actually give plenty of leeway to employers related to that.. only relevent law applying here would be "EEO" and that doesn't mention anything related to EAD.
Legally you don't have a leg to stand on.. but you can try.. tell the lawyer , they have chance to set precedent!
In fact lately, judges have even upheld firings of smokers from certain companies.
IF there is a pattern of discrimination based on age, sex, national origin etc etc. THEN you can sue.. but NOT just because you don't like the policy of the employers..
People don't realize it but US laws actually give plenty of leeway to employers related to that.. only relevent law applying here would be "EEO" and that doesn't mention anything related to EAD.
Legally you don't have a leg to stand on.. but you can try.. tell the lawyer , they have chance to set precedent!
mhssatya
04-05 04:55 PM
I am a subscribed member to IV since last Fri but still can't access the donor forum..somebody help..
One might get a better answer from this thread
Donor Forum: Analysis for EB2IC based on new..
One might get a better answer from this thread
Donor Forum: Analysis for EB2IC based on new..
kshitijnt
05-11 12:17 AM
Oh, did that comment on Brahma and Saraswati incest hurt you? tsk, tsk, tsk.. too bad.
Well, you should have read and responded to the comment before that before pretending to be hurt about my response. I didn't start it.
If you are ready to make such bigoted comment, NEVER expect that you can get away that. Believe me, internet is limitless and I can shovel dirt about India in this forum, if I want to with a google search(which is not my intent here)
Yes of course, I didnt go to any american forum to shovel dirt but you did come here just like Bush doctrine of pre empting anyone who you are remotely jealous about. So it shows who is bigoted & uncivil. It does talk a lot about your "mentality" or rather american mentality.
Well, you should have read and responded to the comment before that before pretending to be hurt about my response. I didn't start it.
If you are ready to make such bigoted comment, NEVER expect that you can get away that. Believe me, internet is limitless and I can shovel dirt about India in this forum, if I want to with a google search(which is not my intent here)
Yes of course, I didnt go to any american forum to shovel dirt but you did come here just like Bush doctrine of pre empting anyone who you are remotely jealous about. So it shows who is bigoted & uncivil. It does talk a lot about your "mentality" or rather american mentality.