ramus
06-29 04:45 PM
wonder what would have made them change the dates? They even haven't seen any application yet?
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SunnySurya
08-07 11:10 AM
Yes, that is the part of the problem
are you paranoid that you are going to loose your job real soon, why do you need a GC sooner, how is it going to change your sorry life.
are you paranoid that you are going to loose your job real soon, why do you need a GC sooner, how is it going to change your sorry life.
saimrathi
07-10 03:19 PM
So USCIS will never see the flowers becoz they are boxed.. and they will never get delivered becoz they are being routed from the airport itself. No major news media covered the few deliveries at USCIS.. What was the point of the campaign again?
For those of you who is interested in one line Q/A
"Is the flower campaign working? Yes"
"Are we good enough with what we have done? Not 100%"
What happened
We were at the loading dock by 10 30 am ( Delivery estimate was between 11 am and 1 pm) and DHL appeared to
have already delivered around 50 boxes once around 9 am. All the flowers we sent are boxed . The visuals will
be boxes and not flowers in the evening when the youtube video will be uploaded. UPS delivered nex. We got the
video of the whole delivery and so did the CNN-IBN/Voice of America folks. There were around 30 boxes or so from
UPS. Next Fedex delivered and there were around 10-15 boxes coming out. While we were doing the recording one of the
officers politely told us not to capture federal buildings and we told them that we were only capturing the delivery of
flowers. After this what ever truck was coming in, they were reversing and pushing back into the dock so that the
delivery cannot be taped. CNN-IBN reporter asked for permission to go inside the loading dock and she was promptly
denied any permission. Then We had a down pour for almost 20-30 minutes and we had to leave the place.
It appears that the S&H dept now knows that most of the flowers are being delivered by DHL/UPS/FEDEX, they are taking
care of the diversion at National airport it self.
In the future if any one wants to do a flower campaign, Please select 2 local florists
(only two florists, in that particular city) and have people call and place orders/online. That way
we can talk with 2 florists and track their delivery easily for picture/video. Every one who tried to call
FTD/proflowers had alot of trouble getting any thing out of them. Actually, we cant blame them because they
are not doing it locally,instead they are putting their orders via national carriers.
Where do we go from here
If people really want to go out and get the main stream media attention, DC is the perfect choice. How ever,Don't plan on a weekend. If we do it right, we could be live on TV and the whole country will ask whats going on, along with the law makers. That will offer a platform for solving the issue at its roots.If you really want to do this, Dont come up with reasons like I dont have time off for a day or I have a project due. I can understand if 1 or 2% of our active members say it, but when 98% of our active members say that I can understand what it is. May be its time we figure out whether we prefer anonymity and pontifical verbatim on the online forum to expressing our concern/disappointment openly. Do not get offended and start flaming me. Just my thoughts.
For those of you who is interested in one line Q/A
"Is the flower campaign working? Yes"
"Are we good enough with what we have done? Not 100%"
What happened
We were at the loading dock by 10 30 am ( Delivery estimate was between 11 am and 1 pm) and DHL appeared to
have already delivered around 50 boxes once around 9 am. All the flowers we sent are boxed . The visuals will
be boxes and not flowers in the evening when the youtube video will be uploaded. UPS delivered nex. We got the
video of the whole delivery and so did the CNN-IBN/Voice of America folks. There were around 30 boxes or so from
UPS. Next Fedex delivered and there were around 10-15 boxes coming out. While we were doing the recording one of the
officers politely told us not to capture federal buildings and we told them that we were only capturing the delivery of
flowers. After this what ever truck was coming in, they were reversing and pushing back into the dock so that the
delivery cannot be taped. CNN-IBN reporter asked for permission to go inside the loading dock and she was promptly
denied any permission. Then We had a down pour for almost 20-30 minutes and we had to leave the place.
It appears that the S&H dept now knows that most of the flowers are being delivered by DHL/UPS/FEDEX, they are taking
care of the diversion at National airport it self.
In the future if any one wants to do a flower campaign, Please select 2 local florists
(only two florists, in that particular city) and have people call and place orders/online. That way
we can talk with 2 florists and track their delivery easily for picture/video. Every one who tried to call
FTD/proflowers had alot of trouble getting any thing out of them. Actually, we cant blame them because they
are not doing it locally,instead they are putting their orders via national carriers.
Where do we go from here
If people really want to go out and get the main stream media attention, DC is the perfect choice. How ever,Don't plan on a weekend. If we do it right, we could be live on TV and the whole country will ask whats going on, along with the law makers. That will offer a platform for solving the issue at its roots.If you really want to do this, Dont come up with reasons like I dont have time off for a day or I have a project due. I can understand if 1 or 2% of our active members say it, but when 98% of our active members say that I can understand what it is. May be its time we figure out whether we prefer anonymity and pontifical verbatim on the online forum to expressing our concern/disappointment openly. Do not get offended and start flaming me. Just my thoughts.
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CADude
10-12 03:37 PM
Email: "PublicAffairs, CISOmbudsman" <CISOmbudsman.Publicaffairs@dhs.gov>
Help required from all pending applicants to show the trend to CIS Ombudsman. Unless we complain and make noise USCIS even don't reconize and accept the problem.
Thank you
CADude,
Do you have postal address or fax of Ombudsman office readily available with you? I remember having seen it, but can't quickly find it. I will send my details to Mr. . USCIS simply brushed aside the issue of FIFO by just saying that it could only be a rare case of an error or special attention needed, which obviously is not true.
Help required from all pending applicants to show the trend to CIS Ombudsman. Unless we complain and make noise USCIS even don't reconize and accept the problem.
Thank you
CADude,
Do you have postal address or fax of Ombudsman office readily available with you? I remember having seen it, but can't quickly find it. I will send my details to Mr. . USCIS simply brushed aside the issue of FIFO by just saying that it could only be a rare case of an error or special attention needed, which obviously is not true.
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bestofall
09-30 05:52 PM
Guys
please report your Approvals in this thread . wish you luck for EB2 / EB3 guys whose PD s are current in October 2009
“If you think IV as an organization, IV’s leadership team and many members who donated their time and money were in anyways helpful in your GC journey, please consider making a “Thank You” donation to IV. Also, keep visiting IV and support your fellow immigrants stuck in this GC queue” __________________
please report your Approvals in this thread . wish you luck for EB2 / EB3 guys whose PD s are current in October 2009
“If you think IV as an organization, IV’s leadership team and many members who donated their time and money were in anyways helpful in your GC journey, please consider making a “Thank You” donation to IV. Also, keep visiting IV and support your fellow immigrants stuck in this GC queue” __________________
snathan
03-31 08:31 PM
Important information is available on this in the Donor Forum. VBKris77 have compiled the information from the previous analysis and the latest information released by Dept. of State and IV's recommendation.
But I am not allowed to post the information here...:D
But I am not allowed to post the information here...:D
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GCKaMaara
11-14 12:12 PM
Mails sent.
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WaldenPond
01-02 02:45 PM
Excellent suggestions & ideas Leo. You have summed up well where we are headed. The some of the arguments you mentioned above are really very good. We will definitely use them when talking to lawmakers. With regard to the problem with the attached file, I just sent you a private message.
Thanks,
-WP
Thanks,
-WP
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grupak
03-25 05:49 PM
I urge you and anybody else who has gone through this to find out more about this by calling the OSC's hotline. (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/engperliwdiss.htm) If I were in your situation, I would at least want to find out what my rights are, what is discriminatory and what is allowed by law. Call them and simply explain that you believe that you were not considered eligible for a job because you have an EAD card as opposed to a Green Card.
Exactly. I couldn't agree more if I wanted to.
Exactly. I couldn't agree more if I wanted to.
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SunnySurya
08-07 02:05 PM
Yes, it matters, all those guys whom I speak about has RD of July 2nd 07
Let us assume that EB2 is going to be current in a year or even sooner than that. Given that situation, and arguing that about 500 people jumped ahead into line over you in to EB2 from EB3, still I do not foresee that their GC's will be approved before the people who are already in line, because
1) as FIFO is not being followed by USCIS, probably they are processing cases based on RD,
2) PD porting is effectively done at the time the second I-140 IS APPROVED. At I-485 stage you can only hope to PD recapture and cross your fingers after sending a no fee letter. This will surely would need additional scrutiny, hence is not a so called 'Low hanging fruit'. Even if an EB3 person wants to start his process right now, it will not be probably before a year and half to two years before he/she is ready to port, and by that time you are past the gate or significantly nearer.
so my point of view is if you look at this thing negatively, you would have a Heartburn and related health issues, but if you are positive and an optimist you would deserve what you get.
stay healthy! that is more important than stressing yourself on issues which in the long term do not matter really. (You will get GC on or two rears later in the worst case scenario). cheer up folks:D:D:D
Let us assume that EB2 is going to be current in a year or even sooner than that. Given that situation, and arguing that about 500 people jumped ahead into line over you in to EB2 from EB3, still I do not foresee that their GC's will be approved before the people who are already in line, because
1) as FIFO is not being followed by USCIS, probably they are processing cases based on RD,
2) PD porting is effectively done at the time the second I-140 IS APPROVED. At I-485 stage you can only hope to PD recapture and cross your fingers after sending a no fee letter. This will surely would need additional scrutiny, hence is not a so called 'Low hanging fruit'. Even if an EB3 person wants to start his process right now, it will not be probably before a year and half to two years before he/she is ready to port, and by that time you are past the gate or significantly nearer.
so my point of view is if you look at this thing negatively, you would have a Heartburn and related health issues, but if you are positive and an optimist you would deserve what you get.
stay healthy! that is more important than stressing yourself on issues which in the long term do not matter really. (You will get GC on or two rears later in the worst case scenario). cheer up folks:D:D:D
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mzafar125
05-09 11:05 AM
Folks,
I would like to run a questions by you guys/gals. I am getting ready to file my I-485 application. My lawyer requested that I find all copies of my I-20, OPT EAD, H1-B's etc. My question is do we have to submit copies of I-20, and OPT EAD for the Adjustment of status (I-485) stage ? Please let me know what you think ?
I-20 is from a university that accept students in the US. The F1 student visa is issued based on the I-20.
OPT EAD - Is one year of practical training that is allowed after graduation
I would like to run a questions by you guys/gals. I am getting ready to file my I-485 application. My lawyer requested that I find all copies of my I-20, OPT EAD, H1-B's etc. My question is do we have to submit copies of I-20, and OPT EAD for the Adjustment of status (I-485) stage ? Please let me know what you think ?
I-20 is from a university that accept students in the US. The F1 student visa is issued based on the I-20.
OPT EAD - Is one year of practical training that is allowed after graduation
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optimystic
03-24 04:00 PM
Got a reply back just now
My mail to Capital One after getting the initial response:
Craig,
Thank you for the reply.
I am surprised by the disqualification since the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had issued the EAD. DHS has set clear guidelines not to discriminate based on any of the authorized work documents issued by them, EAD being one of them. The I-9 form required to be filled in by every employee (citizen or otherwise) clearly mentions this.
Are you sure CapitalOne does not allow candidates who are on EAD specially when it does not require sponsorship from the employer ?
Response that I received for the above email:
Thanks for your message. The information regarding Capital One's policy on pursuing EAD card holders is correct. We are only able to pursue US Citizens or Green Card holders for these roles. I'm sorry, but we won't be able to consider your candidacy at this time.
Best Regards,
Craig
Wow !! They probably did their homework and are prepared to hide behind some loophole in the law to clear themselves of discrimination.
After reading the other thread link that BharatPremi had posted earlier, it seems there is a possibility that they could claim that they don't want to do sponsorship (which is legal to say so), and hiring an EAD candidate means they may have to do some amount of sponsorship, however small it might be (like providing the correct form of employment letter etc).
My mail to Capital One after getting the initial response:
Craig,
Thank you for the reply.
I am surprised by the disqualification since the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had issued the EAD. DHS has set clear guidelines not to discriminate based on any of the authorized work documents issued by them, EAD being one of them. The I-9 form required to be filled in by every employee (citizen or otherwise) clearly mentions this.
Are you sure CapitalOne does not allow candidates who are on EAD specially when it does not require sponsorship from the employer ?
Response that I received for the above email:
Thanks for your message. The information regarding Capital One's policy on pursuing EAD card holders is correct. We are only able to pursue US Citizens or Green Card holders for these roles. I'm sorry, but we won't be able to consider your candidacy at this time.
Best Regards,
Craig
Wow !! They probably did their homework and are prepared to hide behind some loophole in the law to clear themselves of discrimination.
After reading the other thread link that BharatPremi had posted earlier, it seems there is a possibility that they could claim that they don't want to do sponsorship (which is legal to say so), and hiring an EAD candidate means they may have to do some amount of sponsorship, however small it might be (like providing the correct form of employment letter etc).
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camarasa
07-10 01:19 AM
Don't know if anyone noticed but Mr. Emilio's statement nowhere indicates any acknowledgement of the hardships caused by the fiasco. If he (and USCIS) knows about "flowers", I am sure USCIS knows about the scramble, hardships and frustration caused by the fiasco. A simple acknowledgement through something like " ....while we regret unintended consequences of following our internal procedures, we have made arrangements to forward the flowers to ..." would have demonstrated leadership or honesty of intent which I guess is in short supply
I think he is trying to say if anybody needs flowers its our men in uniform and not us (USCIS). I hope I am wrong but thats my perspective. Have sent the flowers anyway ;)
Two things quickly...
1) He was probably advised by their lawyers not to mention anything about the visa bulletin for legal reasons.
2) I didn't realize this until this evening when I mentioned the whole flower thing to my wife and she reminded me that government officials and agencies aren't meant to accept gifts from anyone. I believe this may have been considered a gift, or at least a grey area and perhaps they believed that discretion was the better part of valor.
I work for a government department, not as a State employee but as a vendor, and they aren�t allowed to accept anything from us that may be construed as a gift. Even when we have our annual golf days, ours are paid for by the vendor company but the State is forced to pay for themselves.
I think he is trying to say if anybody needs flowers its our men in uniform and not us (USCIS). I hope I am wrong but thats my perspective. Have sent the flowers anyway ;)
Two things quickly...
1) He was probably advised by their lawyers not to mention anything about the visa bulletin for legal reasons.
2) I didn't realize this until this evening when I mentioned the whole flower thing to my wife and she reminded me that government officials and agencies aren't meant to accept gifts from anyone. I believe this may have been considered a gift, or at least a grey area and perhaps they believed that discretion was the better part of valor.
I work for a government department, not as a State employee but as a vendor, and they aren�t allowed to accept anything from us that may be construed as a gift. Even when we have our annual golf days, ours are paid for by the vendor company but the State is forced to pay for themselves.
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satishku_2000
07-10 01:15 PM
Everyone knows that increasing green card numbers will be best solution. In that also if we ask too much we may not get anything. Double the number of annual Gc plus exclude dependents will be enough for reducing retrogession but that may not eliminate. But waiting period of 2 to 3 years can be reasonable for most people. I am sure one more chance will come for increasing H1b numbers. That time we can try for GC increase also.
But I am supporting the flower Campaign for protesting the VB mess up though it will not solve the problem
Everyone knows what solves the problem , I was asking about to how to acheive them . What are your suggestions to acheive those goals. You seem to have a problem with everything everyone suggests or does. What are your concrete ideas to acheive our goals.
The problem is not about waiting , Problem is unpredictability about waiting , Can you tell me when will my sep 2004 PD will become current? I think I will meet your threshhold of 3 years sooner rather than later ...
Did you send flowers by the way?
You said ". That time we can try for GC increase also. " , How do you want us to try?
But I am supporting the flower Campaign for protesting the VB mess up though it will not solve the problem
Everyone knows what solves the problem , I was asking about to how to acheive them . What are your suggestions to acheive those goals. You seem to have a problem with everything everyone suggests or does. What are your concrete ideas to acheive our goals.
The problem is not about waiting , Problem is unpredictability about waiting , Can you tell me when will my sep 2004 PD will become current? I think I will meet your threshhold of 3 years sooner rather than later ...
Did you send flowers by the way?
You said ". That time we can try for GC increase also. " , How do you want us to try?
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belmontboy
09-23 05:26 PM
Seems logical, but on the other hand if that were to be the case, then why isn't there a spike in June-July '07 to reflect the deluge of 485 filings?
Hmm... Did all the July 07 filer's get their Receipts in the same month???
Hmm... Did all the July 07 filer's get their Receipts in the same month???
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drona
07-11 02:33 AM
Posted by the Journal News
Visa mix-up brings flood of flowers in protest
By LEAH RAE
Hundreds of legal immigrants are resorting to a new tactic this week in their pursuit of green cards: sending flowers to the head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The publicity stunt follows lobbying efforts and lawsuits protesting a sudden change in the rules that govern employer-sponsored immigrants. After rushing to submit green-card applications by July 2, the immigrants were told at the last minute to keep waiting.
Notes being delivered to Emilio Gonzalez, head of USCIS, along with the bouquets skip over the pleasantries and speak directly to the bureaucracy.
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July," the messages say, "and honor the original DOS visa bulletin."
The dispute concerns a U.S. Department of State bulletin from mid-June, dictating who could apply for an immigrant visa. The application is the final hurdle in getting a green card, or permanent residency. Because of a backlog, immigrants spend years waiting their turn, but the unusual June bulletin gave most job-based immigrants the go-ahead to apply.
Jakub Gorecki, who lives in Spring Valley, hurried to get his paperwork together in time. The thick packet of documents - medical exams, vaccination records, a birth certificate from Poland, a $325 application fee - was to arrive July 2 at USCIS, he said.
But that morning, a new bulletin came out, canceling the offer. No applications would be accepted until the new fiscal year in October.
The reversal sent Gorecki and others back to a limbo state.
Continued at..
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS02/707110350/1026/NEWS10
Visa mix-up brings flood of flowers in protest
By LEAH RAE
Hundreds of legal immigrants are resorting to a new tactic this week in their pursuit of green cards: sending flowers to the head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The publicity stunt follows lobbying efforts and lawsuits protesting a sudden change in the rules that govern employer-sponsored immigrants. After rushing to submit green-card applications by July 2, the immigrants were told at the last minute to keep waiting.
Notes being delivered to Emilio Gonzalez, head of USCIS, along with the bouquets skip over the pleasantries and speak directly to the bureaucracy.
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July," the messages say, "and honor the original DOS visa bulletin."
The dispute concerns a U.S. Department of State bulletin from mid-June, dictating who could apply for an immigrant visa. The application is the final hurdle in getting a green card, or permanent residency. Because of a backlog, immigrants spend years waiting their turn, but the unusual June bulletin gave most job-based immigrants the go-ahead to apply.
Jakub Gorecki, who lives in Spring Valley, hurried to get his paperwork together in time. The thick packet of documents - medical exams, vaccination records, a birth certificate from Poland, a $325 application fee - was to arrive July 2 at USCIS, he said.
But that morning, a new bulletin came out, canceling the offer. No applications would be accepted until the new fiscal year in October.
The reversal sent Gorecki and others back to a limbo state.
Continued at..
http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS02/707110350/1026/NEWS10
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nixstor
07-10 07:32 PM
Saimrathi, you are posting the same message on all threads. Anyway, I am sure some of the media will pick up the story and write about it. I think there are benefits from this campaign. The name Immigration Voice is out there. We may get more members of our community to join us and participate in future campaigns and we can learn from experience on how to carry out future campaigns, protests etc. We had to speak out in some way on what happened to us with the USCIS Visa Bulletin fiasco. I believe it was worth it for all these reasons.
Sorry to jump again and pose another Q here. I have seen this happening more than once from saim*. He/She posts the same thing across three threads and whats the point of the boxes being opened by Mr Gonzalez or being received by him intact. You must be trying to play spoil sport here or just acting childish. Can you send me a PM with your number and I would like to talk with you and help you understand what we were trying to accomplish here?
Sorry to jump again and pose another Q here. I have seen this happening more than once from saim*. He/She posts the same thing across three threads and whats the point of the boxes being opened by Mr Gonzalez or being received by him intact. You must be trying to play spoil sport here or just acting childish. Can you send me a PM with your number and I would like to talk with you and help you understand what we were trying to accomplish here?
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asanghi
01-24 01:18 PM
Why don't you use direct flights to India. There is Continental from NY & American from Chicago to Delhi everyday. If you directly book from their websites, the prices are quite reasonable. At least American I know also serves Asian Vegetarian (meant for Indian veggies) food.
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GT7481
09-09 07:23 PM
Finished calling the congressmen/congresswoman got answers ditto as prasad
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nat23
04-05 05:19 PM
Let's assume the date moves to Aug 07 by September of this year.
What will happen after that? I mean what would be the rate of movement
What will happen after that? I mean what would be the rate of movement
gc_on_demand
09-09 04:39 PM
bump